Redding type S reloading 223

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17Hornet

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Switched to redding full size type S with bushings. I see some reloaders take out the de-capper and mandrel and instead trim neck to a consistent thickness for a more consistent tension in bullet to case. Thoughts on this? Is it worth the effort? Seems as though there are mixed opionions
 
I would say just about every serious precision shooter uses a case neck turning tool. Like one of these below. Then typically neck size fire formed cases only. Using bushing dies is for precise neck tension, but it’s not to be done instead of case neck turning.




Personally, I do not use a case neck turning tool, but have thought about getting one several times. I still may. I use standard Redding full length & neck sizing dies. I do not use bushing dies.
 
Well, precision reloading IS work. It’s not supposed to be, nor is it easy. And each person must decide how much they wish to put into it. Again, I haven’t done either neck turning or using bushing dies, as my shooting isn’t after that Level 11 setting, if you smell what I’m grillin’😉

Also, I take from your post, yu are referring to the sentence “a lot of work”, as being monotonous, or mundane. Personally, I don’t find any part of reloading as such. Even repetitive processes such as cleaning primer pockets & priming the brass. To me, those are enjoyable tasks. I find it relaxing, as I do with about every aspect of reloading. Which is also why I have been contemplating getting a case neck turner. To each their own of course.😊
 
Yup your right, I wouldnt be doing it all these years if I didnt like it, guess I should rephrase that to something like "gonna have to leave my comfort zone and delve into something new, get this old brain in new mode gear".
My initial set up, by starting to remove a very thin layer, showed me that yes, there are high/ low spots on outer edge of neck, not much but when using a bushing die it will defenantly make a difference
 
Yes, that’s a good way to say it. Honestly, it will likely do me no good whatsoever. This has been my decided outcome with the more expensive Bushing Dies. These items won’t amount to drastic precision increases over reloads that have already had the Brass prepped and load that has been worked up. I’ll be honest. I’m NOT even a steady 1/4 minute shooter! I’m more like a 1/2 minute shooter.😉 And doing these extras are for those looking for TENTHS minute improvement. Capisce? But, it’s fun to play with reloading.
 
17Hornet said:
My initial set up, by starting to remove a very thin layer, showed me that yes, there are high/ low spots on outer edge of neck, not much but when using a bushing die it will defenantly make a difference
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That's actually a good way to start, especially if you don't have a tight neck barrel which the vast majority of standard production rifles do not.

I initially started skim turning for my hunting rifles back in the early 90s after reading Fred Sinclair & Bill Gravat's book, 'Precision Reloading & Shooting Handbook.' I only full turn necks for barrels with specified neck diameters. One current barrel has a .310" neck and turn brass for that rifle to ensure a minimum .015" clearance after firing.

I have some bushing die sets and haven't found them to be worth the effort and expense. IMHO, for casual target shooting and the average hunting rifle good quality standard dies work fine. ;)
 
17Hornet said:
SevenFan, I tend to agree with you, necked just a few just to see if theres a noticable difference. Appreciate everyones input. My club is mostly shotgun, handgun and .22 plinkers. So I appreciate getting your opionions
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Don't forget to post your results. I hope it turns out well for you.
 
Yes, I will, but it may be awhile. First need to find my most accurate load, then will see if turning down neck improves it
 

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