Piebald fawn

[Fjold]

A mostly white fawn that my daughter got a photo of this morning.

 

[John Henry]

 

[ONE-TEN]

Wow! An Albino deer!

 

[CFJunkie]

Strange that the albino trait didn't include the whole coat.
I wonder if the fawn will outgrow the effect one way or the other.

 

[Fjold]

Piebalds are just a form of leucism (color variation) and not related to albinism. They don't have the eye defects that can lead to blindness that albinos do but can have skeletal issues. It is a recessive gene that is not healthy in a herd.

We have a yearling doe around that is white on its belly and butt. This one is almost all white with just the head, neck and a streak of color on its shoulder. It has a white muzzle also.

 

[CFJunkie]

City guys have a lot to learn about farm life.
Thanks for the information.

 

[ONE-TEN]

Piebalds are just a form of leucism (color variation) and not related to albinism. They don't have the eye defects that can lead to blindness that albinos do but can have skeletal issues. It is a recessive gene that is not healthy in a herd.

We have a yearling doe around that is white on its belly and butt. This one is almost all white with just the head, neck and a streak of color on its shoulder. It has a white muzzle also.

LOL! It was a joke. Of course it’s not Albino. It has a HUGE band of color on its NECK! And because true Albinism is a Total lack of melanin, a big, bright band of color simply isn’t possible!

 

[ONE-TEN]

City guys have a lot to learn about farm life.
Thanks for the information.

LOL!
Old MacJunkie had a Farm, E*I*E*I*O!
And on that Farm he shot his Savages, E*I*E*I*O!

 

[4stringdude]

I got this trailcam photo a few years ago in my Southern Indiana Woods. We named her "Casper" and I put her off limits as a target. She did survive the winter and we got photos of her the next year. I never saw her, but one of my buddies did. He said she obviously had vision problems.

 

[ONE-TEN]

I got this trailcam photo a few years ago in my Southern Indiana Woods. We named her "Casper" and I put her off limits as a target. She did survive the winter and we got photos of her the next year. I never saw her, but one of my buddies did. He said she obviously had vision problems.

Now that one is very likely Albino. It appears devoid of any color. And vision problems would be further evidence.

Very cool to make that off limits. That would be my response as well. Unfortunately, not everyone will. And at some point, if not already happened, some numb-nut come along will spot her and shooting will be their FIRST inclination; simply because she IS Albino.

“Oh boy! There’s something different! A flaw in nature, still beautifully created by God… LET ME SHOOT IT!”

 

[Hatch in LA]

That exact thing happened here in Alabama a few years back. Beautiful piebald and her fawn got in front of a man and his 12 year old son. Dad had the son shoot them both. I would STILL love to shoot the dad.........

 

[ONE-TEN]

Yeah, it’s a shame. And worse than ever. I for one, am against sport hunting altogether. And now, with the high performance rifles and ammunition available, we have far too many hunters, thinking themselves long distance snipers! Taking shots at 700, 900yds and more! More wounded, suffering animals lost to POOR shots, by men with POOR character!

I hunted because yes, it was fun. But I enjoyed game meat very much. Love it! I never did understand killing, just to kill. Or going after “trophies”. To me, that’s just sick.

 

[Hatch in LA]

I LOVE going to my stand while its still dark and quiet, then listening to the woods come to life. Sometimes its SO loud. And game meat is good for my almost 79 year old body. BUT, we also use hunting as a way to "manage the herd." No one is allowed to just kill indiscriminately, and very often we will find a deer that is injured or otherwise deformed on our cameras. That deer then becomes a target.

 

[ONE-TEN]

I LOVE going to my stand while its still dark and quiet, then listening to the woods come to life. Sometimes its SO loud. And game meat is good for my almost 79 year old body. BUT, we also use hunting as a way to "manage the herd." No one is allowed to just kill indiscriminately, and very often we will find a deer that is injured or otherwise deformed on our cameras. That deer then becomes a target.

Oh yes.. I agree with management! I live in South East Pa, right next a State Park. We have so many deer here, it’s nuts! Not to mention, they have no natural predators here. So, of course, herd management is necessary. And I also understand Ranchers quelling predators to protect their animals.

I am a fan of hunting. Actually, I think every one of the Liberal groups o look Iike Humane Society & In Defense of Animals, need to see the difference between hunting reserves, and animals killed in factories for the supermarket meat! I’m simply against any unethical hunting, and trophy hunting for its own sake.

 

[Fjold]

I'll admit it, I'm a trophy hunter and I'm not in any way ashamed to admit it.

When I hunt antelope or deer, I have a certain criteria that I will be hunting for and will pass up a lot of animals looking for what I want to shoot. I will eat the meat or donate it to a worthy cause but I don't hunt to eat. If I was interested in just eating meat, I would go to the store and buy it.

When I hunt in Africa, I'll tell my PH exactly what type of animal I'm looking for and pass on anything that doesn't meet my standards. My criteria is generally that I want the oldest animal that we can find. Your trophy can be anything that you choose, whether it's horn size, body size, color, horn shape or my favorite, age.

I went on an 8 day hunt in the Kwazulu Natal of South Africa and passed on dozens of animals. I didn't pull the trigger on an animal until day 5 when I shot an estimated 15 year old bushbuck that was completely blind in one eye from cataracts and worn nubs of teeth barely through his gums. Then on day 6, I shot an old gray Nyala bull after passing on half a dozen bulls with longer horns.

I've passed on shooting about a dozen eland bulls, Two or three of them were genuine trophy bulls, >38 inches but none of them were the old blue bulls with the big forehead ruff and thick horns worn down from fighting during mating season. I may go the rest of my without getting an eland bull but I had a blast hunting them.

I've shot two bushbucks, both of them so old that they had hardly any teeth left and cataracts in their eyes. They had their dark coats rubbed almost bald with age and both of them had broken horns.

My buffalo is an old warrior that was estimated to be 12 years old when he died. He has big, solid bosses and he's an old white faced warrior with almost no hair on his face or chest from a lifetime of pushing his way through the thorn bushes.

Some time a trophy is the animal and sometimes the trophy is the hunt and the memories that they make. You determine what a trophy is and you can't insult me by calling me a trophy hunter.

 

[ONE-TEN]

Fjold, I know you are NOT an irresponsible hunter. So, that’s one thing. But understand, I don’t hate people for only trophy hunting. One of my closest friends in Arizona is a BIG TIME trophy and flat out KILLING Hunter. He’ll shoot whatever, whenever! And I would trust him with anything! No, it’s simply comes down to conviction. That’s all. But I don’t dislike people for trophy hunting. Like I said, I am a huge fan of hunting. Hunters are some of the best conversationalists, actually. So again, I love hunting. I would still be doing it if I was physically able to. Just I developed a certain conviction in doing so.

However, Irresponsible hunting is a different matter.