Bolt parts

Forgot, I've found several sources , but nobody with older heads with the .068" firing pin hole. Everything out there is 1999 and after.
Savage won't sell me a bolt head. Says has to go to an ffl dealer.
As a last resort, will a small pin head and new small diameter firing pin work in a pre 1999 M110?
 
Numerical has the crappie plastic stock ans the firing pin spring. Nothing else. Ebay didn't bear fruit either.
I just wonder if a later bolt head and small dia firing pin would work. Looking like my only possibility.
 
Paddyd said:
Numerical has the crappie plastic stock ans the firing pin spring. Nothing else. Ebay didn't bear fruit either.
I just wonder if a later bolt head and small dia firing pin would work. Looking like my only possibility.
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You could get the bolt head bushed to any size you want.
 
Look to Numrich for older stuff. However, I’d encourage using newer parts. (Unless you have Pre-1966.)

For any new parts, go to Gun Shack. Lance has everything there. He’s been a HUGE help to the Savage DIY enthusiasts. (Something many FFL Gummy-SMIFFS absolutely despise!😂)
 
Paddyd said:
Where can I buy a new bolt head with the ejector and extractor parts?
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Paddyd said:
Forgot, I've found several sources , but nobody with older heads with the .068" firing pin hole. Everything out there is 1999 and after.
Savage won't sell me a bolt head. Says has to go to an ffl dealer.
As a last resort, will a small pin head and new small diameter firing pin work in a pre 1999 M110?
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What is it that you actually NEED Paddy? I mean, what is the problem? Broken parts?

The Pre-‘99 Bolt heads had the larger, .150” pin hole. But the bolt heads were the same dimensions. As well as the Bolt Sleeve & internals. (Aside from the .150” Firing pin as well.) However, the Extractor/Ejector parts are the same. So again, I ask, what exactly do you need? You know I’ll set right pard😉
 
ONE-TEN said:
What is it that you actually NEED Paddy? I mean, what is the problem? Broken parts?

The Pre-‘99 Bolt heads had the larger, .150” pin hole. But the bolt heads were the same dimensions. As well as the Bolt Sleeve & internals. (Aside from the .150” Firing pin as well.) However, the Extractor/Ejector parts are the same. So again, I ask, what exactly do you need? You know I’ll set right pard😉
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I need a bolt head for a pre 1999 Savage 110FP long action, .068" diameter firing pin with a .473" face. My problem is nobody seems to have them. They have the heads with small dia pins, but it wont work with my bolt. My other question is if I can't source the correct bolthead, can I buy the 1999-later head and also buy a small dia firing pin and will that work in my bolt body?
I hope any of this makes sense to y'all. LOL
 
Paddyd said:
I need a bolt head for a pre 1999 Savage 110FP long action, .068" diameter firing pin with a .473" face. My problem is nobody seems to have them. They have the heads with small dia pins, but it wont work with my bolt. My other question is if I can't source the correct bolthead, can I buy the 1999-later head and also buy a small dia firing pin and will that work in my bolt body?
I hope any of this makes sense to y'all. LOL
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You can get a new small pin bolt head & new firing pin assembly from Gun Shack. You have the 4.522” “Medium” Action right?

.473” SA Bolt Head
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-par...olt-head-308-243-65-creedmoor-260-338-federal

SA Firing pin assembly.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts/savage-bolt-head/savage-short-action-firing-pin-assembly

New Retaining pin for small FB assembly.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts/savage-bolt-head/savage-bolt-head-retaining-pin
 
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Unless you have a Long Action? Or one of those 4.27” Short Actions? Do you know which you have? If not, what Cartridge is it?
 
ONE-TEN said:
Unless you have a Long Action? Or one of those 4.27” Short Actions? Do you know which you have? If not, what Cartridge is it?
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It is a 308W (factory chambering) on a 110 LA receiver. 110FP tactical with 5.062" screw spacing.
 
ONE-TEN said:
You can get a new small pin bolt head & new firing pin assembly from Gun Shack. You have the 4.522” “Medium” Action right?

.473” SA Bolt Head
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-par...olt-head-308-243-65-creedmoor-260-338-federal

SA Firing pin assembly.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts/savage-bolt-head/savage-short-action-firing-pin-assembly

New Retaining pin for small FB assembly.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts/savage-bolt-head/savage-bolt-head-retaining-pin
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No. Before the change in 1999, all 110s were long actions and the 308W with a medium mag well. My screws space at 5.062".
 
Finally, your last choice is just get the Bolt Head and drill it out for the larger Firing pin.
 
Paddyd said:
It is a 308W (factory chambering) on a 110 LA receiver. 110FP tactical with 5.062" screw spacing.
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Yes, I just wasn’t sure if you had one of those after the Bankruptcy, or one of the Medium actions made up to 1987, which was also the larger firing pins.

The Problem with those pins ws the actually the Retention Cross-Pin that holds the Bolt Head in the Sleeve. Drilled for the larger firing pin, they would break from time to time. Like in this picture.

 
ONE-TEN said:
Or you can use your old firing pin parts and just get a naked firing pin. But Gunshack doesn’t have the naked Long Action pins.
https://kinneysshootingsupply.com/savage-firing-pin-for-long-actions-sa-103979/

Oh, and a head rebuild kit.
https://www.gunshack.com/savage-parts/savage-bolt-head/savage-enhanced-bolt-head-kit

Although I prefer Lumley’s head rebuild kit.
https://lumleyarms.us/parts-by-make...s-accessories/savage-cf-extractor-ejector-kit
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Am I correct when reading this that the small pin assembly and matching bolthead will work with the rest of my bolt body, like cocking sleeve, etc.? If so it seems that would be my best option since theres no drilling out the head required.
Thanks for the help too.
 
Yes. Bolt Sleeve & associated parts are the same. As well as the length of the new thinner firing pin.

Remember, you’ll need to check Headspace with the new Bolt Head installed.
 
ONE-TEN said:
Yes. Bolt Sleeve & associated parts are the same. As well as the length of the new thinner firing pin.

Remember, you’ll need to check Headspace with the new Bolt Head installed.
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Thanks. Yes, I have all the tools. This old rifle shares 3 different barrels and I've switched back and forth several times over the yrs.
Honestly, I have no idea of when it was manufactured, but if anyone knows how to research serial numbers it is F416178.
Thanks again.
 
Paddyd said:
Thanks. Yes, I have all the tools. This old rifle shares 3 different barrels and I've switched back and forth several times over the yrs.
Honestly, I have no idea of when it was manufactured, but if anyone knows how to research serial numbers it is F416178.
Thanks again.
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Your 110 was made in 1995, somewhere in around the middle of year. Maybe June-ish.

EDIT: Actually, looking again, your rifle was produced earlier than June. I’d have to do the math breakdown for an exact, but I’d guess it was made roughly in March of ‘95.

 
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Paddyd said:
Thanks. Yes, I have all the tools. This old rifle shares 3 different barrels and I've switched back and forth several times over the yrs.
Honestly, I have no idea of when it was manufactured, but if anyone knows how to research serial numbers it is F416178.
Thanks again.
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Ok, so I did the math just for a hoot.😊
Your rifle was most likely produced on EDIT: March 2nd, 1995 my friend.

Now, how’d I do THAT math!?🕵️‍♂️
 
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Please tell.
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I’m sorry. March, 2nd. Had to Edit. So, looking at the chart, the serial number was 396380 coming into January, 1995. At the end of 1995, it was 512680. That’s a difference of 116,300 serial numbers. (Rifles). Divided by twelve months is 9691 Rifles per month. So at the end of January there were 406,071 Rifles. Then another 9691 in February, is 415,763 Rifles. Given 31 days in March, that’s 290 rifles per day. At the end of day 2 in March, there were 416,343 Rifles. Yours was made sometime during March 2nd.

(I left out the 1 in your serial # what I first did it. So it was March, not February. Of course, this is just basic math. I’m not figuring weekends, or problems with slow production from one day to the next. However, it was somewhere in that time.)
 
ONE-TEN said:
I’m sorry. March, 2nd. Had to Edit. So, looking at the chart, the serial number was 396380 coming into January, 1995. At the end of 1995, it was 512680. That’s a difference of 116,300 serial numbers. (Rifles). Divided by twelve months is 9691 Rifles per month. So at the end of January there were 406,071 Rifles. Then another 9691 in February, is 415,763 Rifles. Given 31 days in March, that’s 290 rifles per day. At the end of day 2 in March, there were 416,343 Rifles. Yours was made sometime during March 2nd.

(I left out the 1 in your serial # what I first did it. So it was March, not February. Of course, this is just basic math. I’m not figuring weekends, or problems with slow production from one day to the next. However, it was somewhere in that time.)
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Thanks. Does anyone know the reason for going to a smaller firing pin diameter?
 
Paddyd said:
Thanks. Does anyone know the reason for going to a smaller firing pin diameter?
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Of course.😊 The bolt head retaining cross pin was prone to cracking in half due to the thin wall material at the firing pin through hole, with the larger firing pin.



The difference in FP through hole in bolt head retaining pin. You can see how thin the walls are around the hole.

 
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ONE-TEN said:
Of course.😊 The bolt head retaining cross pin was prone to cracking in half due to the thin wall material at the firing pin through hole, with the larger firing pin.



The difference in FP through hole in bolt head retaining pin. You can see how thin the walls are around the hole.

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Mines been going strong for over 3 decades. I think they break when the pin is misadjusted too long.
 
Paddyd said:
Mines been going strong for over 3 decades. I think they break when the pin is misadjusted too long.
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Well of course, they don’t all break.🙂 And yes, it’s a certainty those which would would, had factors involved. (Pin adjustment, amount of shooting, etc.) So, yes, excuse my using the word “prone to”. That was incorrect. The correct term is “it could” happen. And I’m sure it hardly ever did happened. However, the cross pin for the small FP, NEVER broke.
 

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