High Power Scopes

CFJunkie

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I am only interested in getting the most accuracy out of my best shooting target rifles, so I have focused with high powered scopes for bench shooting.
I am a great believer in 'aim small, hit small' and with my poor eyesight, I can't rely on moderate scope power to 'aim small'.

On my .223 Savage 12 FV with a 26-inch 1:7 twist Shilen Select Match barrel I use a 45X Leupold Competition scope with a target reticle.
At 100 yards the reticle covers less than 1/10 of an inch. Since July 2025, it has averaged 0.212 at 100 yards for 5-round groups. Just over 30% of my groups are under 0.2 inches.

On my 6.5mm CM Savage 12 FV, also with a 28-inch 1:8 twist Shilen Select Match barrel, I use a 12-42x56 Night Force Benchrest scope with a NP2DD reticle.
It has slightly less magnification, but the front optic gathers much more light and the contrast is phenomenal. Since Oct 2025 it has averaged 0.252 at 100 yards for 5-round groups with a 32X Night Force and 0.236 with the 42X Night Force.

On my Savage 12 LRP with a 26-inch 1:8 twist factory barrel, I use an 8-32x56mm Night Force Benchrest scope with an NP2DD reticle. I haven't shot it recently, because I have more than 4,000 rounds down the barrel and I am contemplating a barrel change. It's best 25 loads average 0.283 for 5-round groups at 100 yards.

On my Savage 10 FP with a 24-inch 1:10 twist factory barrel, I use an 8-32x56mm Night Force Benchrest scope with an Mil-Dot reticle. It hasn't been shot much in the last year because it also has over 4,500 rounds down the barrel, and is awaiting a barrel change, but it's top 25 loads average is 0.350 for 5-round groups at 100 yards.

On my Savage 11 VT .22-250 with a 1:12 twist factory barrel, I use an 8-32x56mm Night Force Benchrest scope with an NP2DD reticle. In December, it averaged 0.261 at 100 yards.

I even have 4.5-30x50 Bushnell scopes on my M1A .308 and Les Baer .223 Super Varmint semi-automatics.
The Les Baer has averaged 0.392 for 400 5-round groups with 33 different bullets. Its top 25 loads have averaged 0.324.

I know many of you prefer lower power scopes, and for hunting, I would never use high powered scopes, but for target shooting, especially from a bench, the only way I can achieve the best accuracy is to 'aim small'.
 
Have owned this Model 12 FVSS 26" .223 Rem 1-9 for decades. Wife bought it for me as a birthday present. Came in a Choate chassis and now resides in an MDT LSS-XL and sports a Night Force Competition 15-55x52. Whatta Hobby!

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I hope it shoots as well as my Shilen Select Match .223 barrel.
Did you go for the 416R SS version? My 416R SS barrels clean up with just 4-5 patches after 100 rounds down the tube.
 
The Savage 110 PCS in .20 Practical is one of my prairie dog handguns. It sports a 5-20 Nightforce SHV scope. It is very seldom I go past 10X for a shot. However, when doing load development at 100/200 yards, I do use it on 20X. Since I PD hunt alone, 10X and lower power allows me to see my hits and misses.

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Unfortunately, I’m a cheap scope guy. And by “cheap”, I mean $1000! LOL! I use a US optics 2.5-20x50. Before that I had an Athlon Midas. My dream scope is the IOR Valdada 4.5-28x50. (I prefer a 50mm objective.) But I just can’t spend $3K on glass. I drew a HARD line in the sand years ago on my “what I’m will to spend on firearms components” spending. LOL! And I decided $1000 is my MAX limit. But I do like seeing y’all’s rigs outfitted with those top shelf scopes. That March looks incredible!




But I’ll be honest, as I have a good bit of experience with high end glass through a good friend. (My close friend is a scope SCHNOB!) I’ve only the one eye as my left is blind, and my right is heavily corrected. And no matter how much I look through my $1000 scope & my friend’s $3000 Schmidt & Bender, I don’t see a clarity difference. (Again, just speaking for myself.) Don’t get me wrong. I would LOVE having that IOR Valdada I mentioned. I’m sure it would be different if I was more serious about shooting & competing. But with being disabled & my limitations, I’m good with this. My shooting (when I do get out), is just for fun.
 
For us poor guys look at the Athlon Ares 15-60. Usually under $1K, lifetime warranty and I got a used one for $700. I use mine at 40-50x and they have a 30mm tube, so cheaper rings. I spent time adjusting the ocular and mine is as clear as a borrowed Nightforce. I have 86-year-old eyes with astigmatisms.
 
For us poor guys look at the Athlon Ares 15-60. Usually under $1K, lifetime warranty and I got a used one for $700. I use mine at 40-50x and they have a 30mm tube, so cheaper rings. I spent time adjusting the ocular and mine is as clear as a borrowed Nightforce. I have 86-year-old eyes with astigmatisms.

You are in the same boat as me. I do love drooling over those $3K scopes! But I’m like you. (Even though I’m a good bit younger.) My EYE is not great. And that, coupled with how good glass machining quality & coatings have become on the Asian scopes, the big money glass is wasted on me. I will say, the expensive glass is always better in low light. But, I don’t shoot in dark. LOL!
 
"Shooting in the dark", my son has a Lica on a OTT 6BR and has taken coyotes in the moon light at 200 yards. Nice piece of equipment, but the price!

In IMHO a $500 scope is twice as good as a $250 scope, but a $3000 scope isn't 3 times better than a $1000 scope. Chinese glass has come a long way.
 
"Shooting in the dark", my son has a Lica on a OTT 6BR and has taken coyotes in the moon light at 200 yards. Nice piece of equipment, but the price!

In IMHO a $500 scope is twice as good as a $250 scope, but a $3000 scope isn't 3 times better than a $1000 scope. Chinese glass has come a long way.
Great points! I feel the same.
 

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