110 Elite Precission Trigger

[Tacoma]

Hey all, I just snagged a used110 Elite Precision and would like to upgrade the trigger to be the same as on my mod 12 LRPV. The 12 has the red/match trigger while the Elite (for some odd reason) seems to only have the standard accutrigger. I remember discussions in the old Savage forum where folks were saying that teh red triggers/parts could not be purchased from Savage though. Has that changed? If so, is these another way to get the factory accutrigger into the 1# range for bench/prone shooting?

 

[SevenFan]

The target accu-trigger parts can be purchased from Gun Shack, but are not fitted as a unit.

Savage individually massages each target trigger to achieve the 6oz pull upon installation.

 

[Tacoma]

Thanks much, @SevenFan . This is exactly what I was hoping for!

 

[ONE-TEN]

Yes, go to Gun Shack. They started selling the Target Triggers, thanks to yours truly! I approached & worked with Lance & Noemi on all the correct part numbers and they agreed to start to selling.

It’s exactly what I use.
Before they did, getting ahold of the Red Target trigger was like Hens Teeth!

One thing to note: They won’t deliver 6oz pull as is. Takes some proper massaging to get to near that level. I’ll be honest, 6oz is too light anyway. About a pound or so is perfect!

 

[Alan]

Didn't realize that was your doing behind the scenes with Lance and Noemi. What made you land on a pound as the sweet spot instead of chasing the lighter number?

 

[ONE-TEN]

Didn't realize that was your doing behind the scenes with Lance and Noemi. What made you land on a pound as the sweet spot instead of chasing the lighter number?

Actually, I give Lance & Noemi the primary credit. Yes, it was my idea because I wanted one. LOL! And I went through the part numbers with them to make it easier for ordering from Savage for them. However, it took Them, with their fondness of Savage rifles and their catering to DIY’rs like me. Lance is a great guy! We had some great conversations, he & I. Above all, their Honesty, Integrity & Character is something of note! And my respect for him, Noemi & their Gun Shack is the utmost high. Awesome, Awesome people looking out for DIY’rs like many of us here.

Well, 1lb. is already really light. And when a trigger starts getting below that, and then into the single digits, it gets SCARY conditions for an Accidental Discharge. Even in the professional world, the vast majority of Professional Shooters in Accuracy driven shooting competitions, will set their triggers between 1-2lbs. Very few go lighter. Except in more Consistency based competitions. Those shooting for smallest group size. Or shooting tiny, targets, like a match head! LOL! These are guns in random rests and whatnot, where the shooter has very little to do with holding & supporting the rifle. But in any competition where the shooter is engaging multiple targets, at different distances & even different positions, using bipods usually, a 6oz trigger is not very popular. And competitions where some shooters do have these single digits Ounce weight triggers, you see the shooter before hand, with the Bolt OUT of the rifle, usually in a pouch. They don’t insert the bolt until completely ready to shoot. And they close the bolt very slowly. Triggers this light can follow the bolt quite easily. I know we’ll hear people talking about their triggers at 1/2 an OUNCE pull weight, that they use for hunting, and it has never had an Accidental Discharge, even when banging the stock on the ground & BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Riiiiight! Unfortunately, this is the Inter-Webs. And people tell stories.

For me, 1-1.5lbs is perfect. Even 2lbs is still very good, as long the other attributes of a proper trigger are present. Being little to no creep, smooth feel, glass like break and ZERO overtravel. (Overtravel is what makes your trigger feel mushy.) I shoot for enjoyment only. No competition. And I use a Bipod typically. (Actually looking at a Tripod in the future.) I’ve always supported my rifle, myself. So a single digit ounce trigger would simply be ASKING for trouble. Of course though, I do use an Accutrigger. So a situation involving an accidental discharge is 100% impossible. The Accutrigger Wild just do its thing in the event of a hammer follow. (Many many, MANY Savage owners have experienced this, of course!) Still, it’s just a good habit to get into.

 

[SevenFan]

There's nothing wrong with a target accu-trigger, what matters is the disicpline in which they're used.

I have target accu-triggers on 3 bench rifles, each one set to 9oz. They all perform consistently without issue and I've never experienced an unintended discharge. I would not choose that trigger for field or bi/tri pod supported rifles, my choice for that kind of shooting would be the varmint/LE trigger.

My 12FV has the varmint/LE trigger, it's crisp, consistent, and from the factory set to 1lb 2oz, I occasionally shoot it at a match for variety.

 

[KMW1954]

I have taken 2 Accutriggers and added shim kits to them. They are now very sweet to shoot.

 

[ONE-TEN]

Oh, I make my own Titanium Shims for every Accutrigger I’ve worked on. I’ve also sent sets of them to several people.

Here’s the tool I made to turn the Titanium shims.


And the shim seated. They come out nice.

 

[SevenFan]

Lance @ triggershims.com is great to work with and where I get my shims.

 

[K9TXS]

I've never cared for any of the Savage triggers. For me, when using the bladed trigger, I feel like I'm taking up slack in the trigger before firing.

I have JARD triggers in my Savages and they work flawlessly. I know Bix'n Andy have triggers out and I'll be getting one of those for a new future savage.

 

[Tacoma]

Lance @ triggershims.com is great to work with and where I get my shims.

I've purchased shims from these guys for allot of different applications from revolvers to rifles. Always a good experience and improvement in trigger feel. I never considered them for my Savages. My 12 LRVP is set to a crisp 12 oz which is perfect for the bench/prone shooting I do with it. Still, you can never have oo good of a trigger, Right? Looks like I'll be placing another order soon.
Thanks for all the solid advice, insight and links!

 

[ONE-TEN]

I've never cared for any of the Savage triggers. For me, when using the bladed trigger, I feel like I'm taking up slack in the trigger before firing.

I have JARD triggers in my Savages and they work flawlessly. I know Bix'n Andy have triggers out and I'll be getting one of those for a new future savage.

Yes, it’s either like it or hate it. It has a very 2-Stage-esk feel to it. You very likely dislike 2-stage triggers as well, correct? Again, very few like, if at least don’t mind either. That’s me. I can use 1 or 2-stage triggers without complaint. However, I’ve invested quite a bit of time into studying trigger mechanics.

But you see, I’ve touched on this before. The aftermarket trigger phenomenon is one of the biggest moneymakers in any field of firearms. The profit these companies make is astronomical! Because, consumers will continue to buy them. By your own words.. you already have more than Jard, but now you want a $350 Bix’n Andy. Why? Because it’s the new kid on the block. It stems from an untruth that has been circulating the firearms world ever since these cartridge triggers started showing up. Consistency & Accuracy! However, no trigger, at any weight, makes a rifle MORE accurate. They just don’t. They do the same thing a Ransom rest does. Now, I’m no different. I like my trigger pretty light. 1-2lbs. But here’s the kicker: If your stock trigger is 1lb. pull weight, going to any other trigger with 1lb. weight is NOT going to make you more accurate. It’s just not. Now, it does lend to feel & comfort. A nice trigger with no slop, minimal creep, glass break & no overtravel, makes the experience more enjoyable. Which is why we are willing spend hundreds of $$ on the latest & greatest.

Lord help the Savage community if TriggerTech ever gets on board and finishes the trigger they’ve been designing for years! (Something tells me, the new 2026 CORE 110 model might have given them the incentive to do it. But we’ll see.)

 

[Fjold]

I don't care for the blade triggers either. I have the old SharpShooter Supply match trigger in my bench type gun.

I can go to single digit weight but I'm not consistent enough to shoot it well. My individual feel of the trigger varies to much depending on things like temperature and other external factors. I have my trigger set at 14 ounces which is just enough feedback to make me shoot it consistently.

 

[IndianHead]

I also run a JARD in my 110 Elite Precision - I love it's performance, but the lowest pull weight I can get is an 8 oz.

 

[ONE-TEN]

I also run a JARD in my 110 Elite Precision - I love it's performance, but the lowest pull weight I can get is an 8 oz.

LOL! You make it sound like that’s not light enough. Once again, hardly anywhere in professional shooting, do Pro-shooters use trigger pull weight THAT low! And professional Snipers in the Military & Law Enforcement, certainly do not use pull weight even CLOSE to that low!

Where we see shooters using super low trigger pull weight that low is on Inter-WEBS Forums just like this one. And by regular Joe-Schmo’s…. Like all everyone here.

 

[IndianHead]

LOL! You make it sound like that’s not light enough. Once again, hardly anywhere in professional shooting, do Pro-shooters use trigger pull weight THAT low! And professional Snipers in the Military & Law Enforcement, certainly do not use pull weight even CLOSE to that low!

Where we see shooters using super low trigger pull weight that low is on Inter-WEBS Forums just like this one. And by regular Joe-Schmo’s…. Like all everyone here.

Where do shoot benchrest competition? Out of curiosity - what rifles and caliber do you compete with?

 

[ONE-TEN]

Where do shoot benchrest competition? Out of curiosity - what rifles and caliber do you compete with?

Oh, I don’t compete in rifle. I did pistol competition in my 20’s, but now it’s just enjoyment whenever I do get out.

No, I simply read, and study every aspect of the firearms hobby A LOT! And I have an eidetic memory for certain things.

 

[IndianHead]

Oh, I don’t compete in rifle. I did pistol competition in my 20’s, but now it’s just enjoyment whenever I do get out.

No, I simply read, and study every aspect of the firearms hobby A LOT! And I have an eidetic memory for certain things.

Ya, it was obvious that you’ve never shot Benchrest competition; most professionals use a pull weight between 1.5 to 3 ounces. Some even less. My Current MPA in 6.5 CM runs a Bix’N Andy ball trigger, adjustable from 1oz to 1 ¾ pound. I run mine at 4 ounces.

While you are absolutely correct that military and law enforcement would never use such a “light” trigger pull in the field or in service, those organizations most certainly take advantage of extremely-light trigger when shooting competition.

The US Army captain who won the 1985 Wimbledon Cup shot a Rem 40-X action, chambered in 300 Win Mag. He used a Canjar 3-lever trigger having a 2 Oz. pull weight.

 

[ONE-TEN]

You should read my posts better. I specifically said I EXCEPT FOR!
Here are my exact words.
“Except in more Consistency based competitions. Those shooting for smallest group size. Or shooting tiny, targets, like a match head! LOL! These are guns in Ransom rests and whatnot, where the shooter has very little to do with holding & supporting the rifle.”

So yes, you are somewhat correct in that specific type of shooting. I’m speaking of the much more popular PRS in which shooters are engaging multiple targets at multiple distances & even moving from one shooting position to another. They almost always use Bipods or just bags. Again, not speaking of competition where the rifle is basically locked in a rest & the shooter barely even holds/supports the rifle. But I guess I should have been more clear.

 

[Tacoma]

I've never cared much for benchrest as it sems more about an equipment race that skill. I'm more of a kyl killing, lolly pop bustin, egg topplin guy. Funny match sticks were mentioned. We have an interesting .22 rimfire match coming up at our club in 3 weeks. 50 yd course of fire is: 5 dum-dum pops, 5 drinking straws, then 5 Q-tips, then 5 match sticks. ( IF we need a shoot off, we go to 60 yds) No mechainical rests allowed . I usually shoot it with a CZ 457 or my Vudoo. I can tell you that good ammo and good wind reading skills rule the day.

 

[Fjold]

Many years ago, the saying on the 600 yard line for High Power matches was:

"The best shooter doesn't always win, it's usually the guy who reads the wind the best."