XUSNORDIE
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Ummmm...yes sir.....guess it's time to see the Doc and inquire about increasing, decreasing or dropping a couple meds....
.17 WSM
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Ummmm...yes sir.....guess it's time to see the Doc and inquire about increasing, decreasing or dropping a couple meds....
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XUSNORDIE
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Hey! I resemble that remark!
Me too......I just swallowed a small pharmacy....bloodwork yesterday and Doc tomorrow.....I'm sure mine will be "adjusted".....
Frontiersman
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Last time I complained, they gave me more. 22rx at the moment. Pretty sure it’s a pre-embalming plan.
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Frontiersman
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Are you reloading fired cases or pulling the bullet and loading the new brass?
What do you use for a shell holder?
I have a different purpose in mind. I want to expand the neck and load for 25 Stevens. It should work well.
What do you use for a shell holder?
I have a different purpose in mind. I want to expand the neck and load for 25 Stevens. It should work well.
DeadEyeDeadly
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@ Frontiersman
"Are you reloading fired cases or pulling the bullet and loading the new brass?"
Pulling bullets & using primed cases to reload with new powder. I have Prime All primer on hand, but am still experimenting with adding a binder before priming fired cases.
"What do you use for a shell holder?"
17 Hornet. Not perfect, but works fine to pull/seat bullets.
25 Stevens Wildcat sounds interesting. I lack the resources to attempt such a project!
Check-Out Rimfire Central Forum, "Reloading 17 WSM" for additional Info.
"Are you reloading fired cases or pulling the bullet and loading the new brass?"
Pulling bullets & using primed cases to reload with new powder. I have Prime All primer on hand, but am still experimenting with adding a binder before priming fired cases.
"What do you use for a shell holder?"
17 Hornet. Not perfect, but works fine to pull/seat bullets.
25 Stevens Wildcat sounds interesting. I lack the resources to attempt such a project!
Check-Out Rimfire Central Forum, "Reloading 17 WSM" for additional Info.
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Pressure was too high here, right? Had to pry the cases from the chamber with a flat blade? I’d think so at over 3300fps. That is COOKIN’!
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Btw:, how is that Primall? I’m just starting to save all my spent primers. Try to re-prime them in the future. Do you have your own recipe, or using the one found online?
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Result of pressure Pic ...Pressure was too high here, right? Had to pry the cases from the chamber with a flat blade? I’d think so at over 3300fps. That is COOKIN’!
DeadEyeDeadly
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The Prime-All goes bang when struck with a hammer. I have plenty of factory 17 WSM to pull bullets and use the primed cases to reload in my search for better accuracy. Attached .PDF has lots of primer formulations.
Frontiersman
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The 25 Stevens is a 25 rimfire strait wall case. If I can straitened out the WSM it should be pretty much identical. A 25acp round nose should be quite similar to the original projectile. Im currently on the prowl for a mold.
I’ll start a separate thread when I make some progress.
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Yes, that’s the same information I have. I’m interested in making/using the
EPH 26 formula.
WOW! That case Rim is blown up like a balloon! LOL! That would be worrisome if it was more powder than just about enough to take a fingernail off.
XUSNORDIE
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Well it was developed from a 27 cal blank cartridge so....
Frontiersman
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Im thinking the 5mm Remington RF may also work.
DeadEyeDeadly
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Fabbed a cheek riser for my 17 WSM B-Mag out of ½ inch packing foam (firm,not rigid). Tapered the lower edge with an electric carving knife, then smoothed that up with 60 grit sand paper. Secured to cheekpiece comb with RealTree EDGE Duck-Tape. Cheek weld/sight box combination is now great … should help with shot group accuracy.
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Very nice. Good looking too.
Isn't prime-all corrosive?
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There are several formulas. Some corrosive, done non-corrosive. The original used for a long time, H48 IS corrosive because it contains Potassium Chlorate. I’m looking at the formulas using Lead Hypophosphite, which is NOT corrosive.
However, as long as it’s cleaned with soap/hot water each time, it’s never a problem.
Frontiersman
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Lead styphnate
Mercury fulmanate
There is a non-toxic recipe out there. Not sure what it is.
Not quite a recipe, but ….
Mercury fulmanate
There is a non-toxic recipe out there. Not sure what it is.
Not quite a recipe, but ….
DeadEyeDeadly
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My Savage B-Mag has a defective chamber. Almost all the fired casings stick inside the chamber and require a jewelers screwdriver to pop them loose. I bore scoped the chamber, and found it to be severely grooved from the apparent use of a worn-out reamer during manufacture. I contacted Savage, and they want me to return the entire rifle for evaluation and testing. I only want to return the barreled action.
I took my B-Mag to a gunsmith to inquire about having the barrel (22 inch) cut shorter and re-chambered, but he stated because of the weird configuration of the action to barrel, it would be too much of a hassle to do so.
Does anyone have any information regarding contacting Savage for an exception to returning the entire weapon, or perhaps provide info about a gunsmith I could ship my barreled action to, to have the re chamber accomplished.
Thanks in advance for any help. See pics.
I took my B-Mag to a gunsmith to inquire about having the barrel (22 inch) cut shorter and re-chambered, but he stated because of the weird configuration of the action to barrel, it would be too much of a hassle to do so.
Does anyone have any information regarding contacting Savage for an exception to returning the entire weapon, or perhaps provide info about a gunsmith I could ship my barreled action to, to have the re chamber accomplished.
Thanks in advance for any help. See pics.
Frontiersman
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Could you polish it?
DeadEyeDeadly
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I've already tried that a couple of times, using a 270 caliber bore mop impregnated with automotive rubbing compound. After trying that, it seemed to help a little bit, but the grooving is so severe, that it can't solve the case sticking issue.
The Infamous Jim B.
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You would need a much heavier firing pin spring for the 110 RF to ignite those 17 WSM's, and then it would be relegated to a single-shot unless you wanted to open up the magazine port in the bottom of the action and fabricate an all new bottom metal to accept a B-Mag magazine. Not saying it couldn't be done with the right means and motivation, but would be a lot more work than it would ever be worth. Much better off to just get a B-Mag in .17 Hornet or swing a .17 Rem or Fireball barrel onto a S/A 110 (the fireball would also likely be relegated to being a single-shot unless you could figure out how to make a blocked .223 mag feed it reliably.
There's a reason Savage made the B-Mag's 100% cock-on-close rather than cock-on-open - and it's because those nail gun cases the 17 WSM is based on have very thick rims and need a lot more firing pin energy to set them off.
From what I can find most bolt-action rimfire firing pin springs for 22LR, 22 WMR, 17 HMR and 17 Mach 2 are in the 14-18 ft-lb range, whereas the B-Mag is in the 23-25 ft-lb range. IIRC the factory 110 centerfire firing pin springs are in the 25-28 ft-lb range.
